This is a meeting engagement between the elements of 9th SS Division and 2 Soviet tank brigades, setup is simultanous with the German objective to clear one of the two roads of all Soviet units the Russian have to destroy more tank steps than they lose. Vince and I agree that most scenario's can be won by either side but in regards to this one you need to have a poor German commander, an good Soviet commander and a bit of luck to win as the Russians. Well playing Vince meant that the first option was not going to happen and I was not on my top form and I had some poor luck. In my view the RKKA can not face up to tank efficient, late war German Panzers in a tank battle unless they have overwhelming force, so knowing this is postioned my forces in woods to the south waiting for the German units to advance. The German commander sent his GREN forward towards my forces, he also left a couple of SPW's in range to tempt me to fire, thos worked as I thought that with just 6 required to kill I will get some early step losses, I knew that I would recieve incoming fire from two Panthers who would need 9's to kill. I missed with one shot Vince got two out of his four shots as hits. This was a blow but not a killer blow, but he then advanced with his GREN and HMG adjacent to my tanks on the edge of the forest, this was where I made my crucial error I used Op fire and took out some steps but now my tanks were spotted. The German tank commander now unleashed a very accurate fire and that was that the SS jumped into the assaults tank losses mounted supporting SMG tried to assist but with lower morale and limited leaders the game in effect was all over. I conceded very early in this one and apologised to Herr Hughes for giving in so early but I was not enjoying being thrashed by a better armed, better moraled and better led army in a scenario I knew from the off was unbalanced.