Hard Enough Fall of France 1 #19 |
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(Defender) Germany | vs | France (Attacker) |
Formations Involved | ||
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France | 6e Groupe de Reconnaissance de Division d'Infanterie | |
Germany | Grossdeutschland Division |
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Side 1 | 10 |
Draw | 1 |
Side 2 | 1 |
Overall Rating, 13 votes |
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3.15
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Scenario Rank: 645 of 913 |
Parent Game | Fall of France 1 |
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Historicity | Historical |
Date | 1940-05-15 |
Start Time | 10:00 |
Turn Count | 16 |
Visibility | Day |
Counters | 67 |
Net Morale | 1 |
Net Initiative | 2 |
Maps | 2: 27, 31 |
Layout Dimensions | 86 x 28 cm 34 x 11 in |
Play Bounty | 102 |
AAR Bounty | 153 |
Total Plays | 12 |
Total AARs | 4 |
Battle Types |
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Rural Assault |
Conditions |
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Off-board Artillery |
Reinforcements |
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Scenario Requirements & Playability | |
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Fall of France 1 | Base Game |
Introduction |
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The Germans were still holding out in Stonne at 1000, so the French sent in a second counterattack to retake the village. The French tanks followed the tracks left by the first wave to ascend the ridge to the plateau. |
Conclusion |
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As the French tanks advanced on the village, German soldiers sniped at the oncoming French infantry from the top of the village's water tower. A hail of AT shells immobilized or destroyed several French tanks, and the French infantry eventually chose to bypass the village through the western woods. They captured a position in the western part of Stonne, and as the Germans fought to repel them the French tanks closed the pincers on the village. Soon, most of the Germans could been seen running and driving away from the deadly heights. This was a serious failure for the Grossdeutschland Regiment, and its first retreat since the beginning of the war. |
AFV Rules Pertaining to this Scenario's Order of Battle |
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3 Errata Items | |
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Scen 19 |
German 37mm should be 37mm AT. (rerathbun
on 2010 May 18)
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This is actually another ½track vehicle, simiar to the AMR33 & AMR35. It used the mechanized movement rate. (plloyd1010
on 2013 Apr 20)
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The morale and combat modifiers of German Sergeant #1614 should be "0", not "8". (Shad
on 2010 Dec 15)
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Grossdeutschland über alles |
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En este escenario nueve pelotones de tanques franceses B1-bis, H39 y FCM36, apoyados por dos pelotones de carros blindados (armored cars) P16 y un batallón de infantería, atacan las posiciones alemanas en torno a Stonne. Los alemanes despliegan un batallón del regimiento de elite "Grossdeutschland", apoyado por algunas baterías AT. Los tanques pesados franceses B1-bis, junto con los tanques medios H39, atacan el norte de la colina donde se halla Stonne. Los alemanes defienden este sector con varias unidades de infantería y HMG y un magnífico líder con modificador moral de "2". Los alemanes sufren considerables bajas, pero su superior moral (y la de su líder) les permite resistir. Por su parte los blindados franceses FCM36 atacan un pelotón de StuGIIIA y medio pelotón de PzIVD alemanes. Los franceses consiguen destruir el medio pelotón de PzIVD, pero el StuGIIIA alemán se muestra indestructible ante la escasa potencia de fuego de estos tanques franceses. Al final el ataque blindado francés fracasa, ya que son destruidos dos steps de FCM36 gracias al fuego cruzado alemán de cañones AT y el pelotón de StuGIIIA. Al final, los alemanes son incapaces de conquistar un sólo hex de colina en Stonne. Victoria mayor alemana. La mejor moral del regimiento Grossdeutschland y de sus líderes ha sido decisiva en esta partida. |
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History was right. | ||||||||||||
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The French decided to attack with infantry against the west side of the hill and the village of Stonne. The plan was to move up under the cover of smoke and have the Char B1bis tanks in support. This plan worked to get the French through the German outpost and to grab a foothold on the hill but once on the hill, the German firepower stalled the French attack. The German panzer reinforcements came early and put AT fire on the B1bis tanks, killing some and driving off others. Soon the Germans counterattacked and pushed the French off the hill. The French tanks and rest of the infantry tried to move to and gain a hold on the east side of the hill. The tank portion of that attack was successful, killing and driving off the Pz Mk IVDs and PZIIs but the lone Stug IIIA platoon supported by the 37mm Antitank Guns held the French armor in check. The infantry was pinned behind the hedges and by 12:30 pm it was apparent the French attack failed. |
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Stonne cold | ||||||||||||||
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This was a Skype play with Wayne Baumbar over the course of two sessions. Wayne played as the French and I as the Germans. The leader draw was average to good for both sides, but it is a tough one for the French as they have lower morale and they are attacking a hill town. They do have the massive Char B1's to help force assaults but they face the elite Grossdeutschland regiment that has better morale and infantry weapons. They also have the terrain, being able to setup on the hill and adjust to the the French attack. The French start by advancing down the west end of the road on board 27 with there tanks. Other infantry and Char B1's enter from the west, directly opposite the end of the ridge that the town of Stonne sits on. To the south the French advance their H39's to join the attack. The French face a dugin Grossdeutschland regiment on the 40m hill and in wrecked town of Stonne. They have arranged HMG's and AT guns to cover the advance as well. They are all grouped on the hill but they are stretched out east-west along the hill. The French push at the western tip of the hill where the German defense is the thinnest. A company of Char B1's begin to blast away at the dugin Germans scoring demoralizations and set losses. They eventually reduce the point of the defense and take the edge of the hill. French infantry try to move to the flanks of the hill to put pressure on but German fire demoralizes them and are forced to flee and recover. French H39's try to flank the hill and gets caught in an assault on the east end of the hill. German infantry are able to tie them down until the German armor arrives. The German PzIVD is able to score a kill on the H39's and they begin to fall back. Back on the west end of the hill the German units defending the tip have fled back into the town of Stonne and the Char B1's get excited and chase after them. They are able to score losses in the town, but fear of German counter attack force the French armor to get out of the town and let the infantry handle it. In the pause the disorganized Germans are able to get fresh units, including an HMG into the town to keep it uncontrolled. Meanwhile other French FCM36's move to reduce a German dugin position to the south of Stonne, French armor try to get in but German grenade bundles demoralize the tanks. But where was the French infantry. During there advance German OBA and OP fire targeted the infantry and failed morale checks took there toll. Much of the French infantry need to spend time recovering from the German fire to make it had to support the armors assaults. This left the tanks on their own to attack but many became demoralized during the attacks. This left the battle up to the tanks which became vulnerable to German AT fire. To the south if the Stonne ridge the PzIVD engaged the H39's for a second time scoring a reduction to one. The French responded with armored cars to try to flank the PzIVD, but lost one step. Eventually, they were able to and the supporting German 37mm AT were not able to stop them. This put the vulnerable PzIVD in a bad spot and eventually a shot from a FCM36 took it down. But the damage was done as this tied up valuable armor from getting the Grossdeutschlander's out of Stonne. Two assaults by the Char B1's failed as they became demoralized by dugin infantry in the town and the ridge. This allowed the Germans to easily hold the ridge and the with the game with a wide margin, 35-12. The scenario is quite interesting, but it is very hard for the French. They must attack a hill town with lower morale troops and tanks. The Germans, while on the defensive, but disadvantaged at the start have the edge. So this is another the is historically correct but tough as a two player game. |
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Germans far too strong for the French in this scenario | ||||||||||||||
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This was played via Skype against Alan Sawyer over toe sessions. A French combined arms force have to retake Stonne against a equal (in terms of foot units) force of Germans, halfway through the scenario the German side receives AFV reinforcements and plentiful OBDA. I try not to ever say a scenario is not winnable for any side, and I note that the French have recorded one victory, and not to take anything away from Alan who set up very well and played a good solid game, this is one unbalanced scenario. The one French advantage is the 3 B1 bis who can lay down some heavy firepower. however they are slow and it will take three turns at least to get in positions to use that firepower. A flanking attack would take even longer. The French artillery is OK but will be hitting on the 21 or 16 columns as the Germans will be dug in or in Stonne itself. The French have 7/6 morale which given the open ground around the village will result in lots of disruptions and demoralization's from German OF. Alan had set up with every 40m hill hex occupied, the ATG's to the rear and ENG units occupying the town. As the French advance the B1 bis went straight for the town, supported by the main bulk of the foot units, a small force was sent to flank the south side of the town to join with the FCM36 company in an effort to split the defenders. After several turns of maneuver the French began to pour fire into Stonne but all to no great effect with the German player able to pull out disrupted units, replace with fresh units and easily rally his troops while all the time though not inflicting any huge losses of the French the frequent disruptions were causing a headache. When the German AFV's arrived they reinforced the town and drove of the French armoured cars, it was when the German OBDA became active that the tide really turned and losses began to mount for the French. Finally with time running out the B1's assaulted the town initially this was a success but failing to completely clear the first town hex left them very vulnerable to A/T attacks from the STUG in the ruined part of Stonne. The B1's pulled out to be replaced by INF/HMG who could not make any headway against the brave stubborn trooper of GD division. The B1's tried again but were beaten back by the STUG backed up with accurate HMG fire. By the end of play all of Stonne was still in German hands for a major major victory. I rated this at first as a 1 but will increase that to a 2 just, but this scenario needs some tweaks to become balanced, I would suggest French morale to be 8/6 and a decrease in the German OBDA to 16 x 2. Even then it would be a tough slog for the French. Avoid this one if looking for a good game, I would even question if it's a good simulation of the action as the French won this encounter according to the conclusion, it does though show why French forces struggled against the better firepower and more mobile German invaders. |
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