Leaders riding with non transport units.

[vince hughes]

That's kinda what I'm getting at: that rule would apply if he wasn't actually loaded but if he was, as per rule 5.65 the leader would be eliminated also. Correct?

No, he would not. He is eliminated with a leader loss roll per Shads posting. That being said, there is a house rule that any excess 'X' results apply to leaders. So if a reduced MTC and a leader were hit by fire and suffered a 2X the leader would be killed too.

Thats not so much a house-rule rather than ones interpretation of rule 6.71 under "Leader Casualties" - "Lone Leaders" and interpretation of when the leader is lone vis-a-vis the X application.

1. Some players take the lone leader only to count at the moment of the X infliction.

2. Some players take the lone leader to count as such with each X reduction

For example, a 2X hits a leader and reduced step.

Case 1 will have the leader survive as he was not alone when the 2X hit.

Case 2 will have the leader killed because the first X killed the step, leaving him 'lone' for the second X to be applied..

To be controversial, Wayne and I (and I think Alan) use case 2