"Invasion of Germany" query

[larry marak]

Yikes, out-of-house printing. I'll do 12 Hail Shad's as penitence.

[Poor Yorek]

Yikes, out-of-house printing. I'll do 12 Hail Shad's as penitence penance.

If you are going to make a joke about a religious practice, at least get it right.

[campsawyer]

Yikes, out-of-house printing. I'll do 12 Hail Shad's as penitence.

That's ok. Just put the compost in and put the seat down.

Ok. I am done with the backwoods humor.

[Hugmenot]

Yikes, out-of-house printing. I'll do 12 Hail Shad's as penitence penance.

If you are going to make a joke about a religious practice, at least get it right.

Larry is an old man and in his confusion he may have remembered the correct French word, pénitence, from his fighting days at the Marne.

Outhouse publishing; I've got to remember that one!

[larry marak]

My sincere apologies to anyone whom I may have offended with my above pun. I respect all sincere believers whatever their faith or affiliation.

[Poor Yorek]

My sincere apologies to anyone whom I may have offended with my above pun.

Whilst it is tiresome to hear constantly the secularization and usurpation of sacred things (e.g. "Hail Mary Pass"), I'm afraid, Larry, that you were mostly the victim of having been "spotted" and subjected to opportunity fire. Sorry about that.

PY

[Poor Yorek]

Just looked through my copy of IoG. It has 50 scenarios, not 48, and includes all of the scenarios from Aachen 1944, North of Elsenborn, Roer River Battles, Siegfried Line and West Wall.

The cover of my IoG is the same as the one shown on Avalanche Press's website. Either the 48 is a typo or it's a second edition (perhaps produced after the death of the printernator?).

PY, if you do order it, can you let us know so we can compare copies? Mine has 50 scenarios in 66 pages.

I just checked my IoG and it has a 2011 print date and 50 scenarios. I believe this contains all the scenarios - in fact, I downloaded an excel cross-reference somewhere that shows which IoG scenario belonged to which previous supplement. I have attached it here.

All:

My IoG just arrived ... happy to say in the same calendar year as ordered. Based on rerathbun's file, it would appear that APL simply truncated the full 50 scenario IoG by lopping off the last two (Scenarios #9 and #10 from Siegfried Line) to give the new total of 48. There are sixty-four pages and the cover art is as depicted on Site (the Hurtgen Forest).

PY First Sergeant (select)

[Poor Yorek]

^ PS

In this new IoG under Special Rules #15 Strongpoints, strongpoint pieces are now stated to be drawn from Cassino '44, yet the draw selection still explicitly mentions placing "all six strongpoint pieces in a cup ..." as though referring, presumably, to the Airborne mix: Cassino has more than six strongpoints.

So either they wanted to "update" the strongpoint draw to Cassino, but just failed to update the language regarding the counter draw procedure or someone inadvertently modified the reference from Airborne to Cassino.

[vince hughes]

If the SSR 15 says take them from Casino, then for your edition, I'd say go with that. On the downloads, each one is different. Some are Airborne and some are Cassino. The scenarios themselves I think indicate where the counter-mix is taken from. You might even find that as you use each scenario yourself. I doubt very much whether they have been edited to co-exist with the opening SSR-15

[Poor Yorek]

The scenarios themselves I think indicate where the counter-mix is taken from.

Leftenant, Sir, the record is disjointed! For example, IoG3/NoEl1 and IoG8/NoEl3 mention neither Cassino nor Airborne in the Scenario "Notes" as sources for the strongpoints. Oddly enough, IoG19/NoEl5 and IoG14/NoEl9 cite Edelweiss as the strongpoint source.

For IoG10/NoEl5, the original "notes" are explicit regarding Airborne but change in IoG to Edelweiss. Go figure.

The original NoEl SSR 15 explicitly cites Airborne

With the new IoG it seems that the default is intended to be Cassino, but there is still a mixture of citations in the individual scenarios (I do not own either Airborne or Eidelweiss so it is unclear to me what is distinctive regarding their strongpoint mix).

You might even find that as you use each scenario yourself.

We E-8's have been known to be taught to read. My post was based on having played through NoEl using the original supplement and, now, comparing with the new IoG.