my copy arrived yesterday (along with SinFo, HopSer and BOB)
It says in there that the campaign map is available from APs website.
I assume this is still in the pipeline? I'd like to get into it as its similar to something that i have been designing at home.
does anyone know anything more?
I recall either on BGG or CSW awhile back Alan (campsawyer) saying it was still "in the works" and would be posted later. I don't know where he got his information though?
...came for the cardboard, stayed for the camaraderie...
(07-04-2012, 01:00 PM)Shad Wrote: I recall either on BGG or CSW awhile back Alan (campsawyer) saying it was still "in the works" and would be posted later. I don't know where he got his information though?
Alan did the campaign charts download, maybe he's creating the map as well.???
(07-04-2012, 01:00 PM)Shad Wrote: I recall either on BGG or CSW awhile back Alan (campsawyer) saying it was still "in the works" and would be posted later. I don't know where he got his information though?
Yes they are in the works. This was from Mike B. Not sure when they will be posted though.
(07-04-2012, 01:00 PM)Shad Wrote: I recall either on BGG or CSW awhile back Alan (campsawyer) saying it was still "in the works" and would be posted later. I don't know where he got his information though?
Alan did the campaign charts download, maybe he's creating the map as well.???
No I am not. This was already done as part of the playtest. Just need to wait for Mike B. to post it to the APL website.
I really enjoyed the "Steadfast and Loyal" campaign and am anxious to see "Brave but Futile". These are a perfect fit for the player who wants to play through a campaign but doesn't want to track his leaders like in C&C. There is a LOT of paperwork to track losses, replacements, CPs, etc. but the payoff is huge.
As a sidebar, I'd love to see a way to get these into the HQ database, even as a "one off" kind of posting. They aren't scenarios but they are a PG product of some considerable interest. Maybe a thread for Campaigns here on the Forums would prove to be a good stopgap. My most recent AAR on WotE begins to draw some lessons on the entire supplement. A campaign report summarizing the entire supplement or the Ivy campaign, or a C&C campaign, etc. would give people an insight into how these products work.
While there are still plenty of battles in WW II to get completed in PG, this is an area where the series can continue to expand even if it touches on battles that have already received a scenario treatment.
Matt, Thanks for the support for something to log these campaigns with on PG-HQ. I believe these campaigns make PG even better with a strategic component to them. As for logging losses, I have a spreadsheet that I use, it makes it lot easier. The one for PL in on the APL website. I am retrofitting it to the Ivy and Cassino campaigns in a few weeks.
Thanks Alan. If nothing else, this will bring me firmly into the camp of those who use computer assistance to play analog games well. Previously, I went with the old tried and true "make a million copies" approach for the Ivy campaign. It is usually coupled with the "is this the current turn's version?" interlude as you try to figure out if you made all the corrections that needed to be made and have done so on the correct version of the sheet.
Upon completion, the sheets and the scenario records go in the "I really have to figure out what I'm going to do with this stuff" pile of other records which sits next to the "old versions of rules that I can't bring myself to throw out pile which recently found a use in propping up a leg of a table to ensure that a large map game would not get damaged by differing table levels. As you can see, I am a complete Luddite when it comes to analog gaming.
When I was just graduating from business school a friend of mine was moving and asked for some help. As I was carrying some boxes out of his study I noticed that one box was open and a pile of game sheets from the "dots and boxes" game where you draw lines to finish boxes and see who finishes the most boxes to win the game. I asked him about the records and he told me this was the fourth time he had moved those particular records, they were from his early teens. It has been a constant joke between us ever since that he held onto game records from junior high school.
(07-05-2012, 11:15 PM)campsawyer Wrote: Matt, Thanks for the support for something to log these campaigns with on PG-HQ. I believe these campaigns make PG even better with a strategic component to them. As for logging losses, I have a spreadsheet that I use, it makes it lot easier. The one for PL in on the APL website. I am retrofitting it to the Ivy and Cassino campaigns in a few weeks.
I made this Excel spreadsheet to use in my current Operation Epsom: War in the Hedgerows campaign. The version I uploaded here has my current OOBs, numbers and leaders, etc., in it for that campaign as it stands now, but feel free to use and adapt to your own purposes...
