(03-01-2014, 01:33 AM)vince hughes Wrote: For me, self-spot is the counter doing it from its natural level. If they need a man in the trees to see for them, then that is not a self-spot from the guys firing the tubes and is little different if at all to having an officer spot for them elsewhere.
Vince,
I submit there might be a middle case: it is rather different having an artillery observer yell down, flag, or radio communicate from a building or tree who saw that tube's shot land at such-and-such location (being in the same hex albeit in a different spot) and say "25 meters short and left" as compared to a remote observer 1500m away relaying "I saw some shells landing 25 m short and left."
Wonder if 4th Ed will clarify or make explicit this issue? And I claim copyright on "vertically enhanced observer." :-P