Lone Leader after AT Attack in Assault?

[Michael Murphy]

Since I didn't see any mention in your original message I'd like to ask if you remembered to roll twice for Leader Casualties? First your leader has to roll per 6.7 Leader Casualties. As written, this rule applies to any friendly unit eliminated. I play that any AFV step lost counts as a step loss for the Leader Casualties modifier. I don't double any steps; trucks, wagons, and the like do not count for this roll.

Assuming that your leader survives your next step would be to roll again per rule 6.71 Lone Leaders. Assuming that whatever capped the troops hasn't killed you too, you now find yourself all alone with bad guys. That would suck so it's time to GTFOOD.

Hope that helps.

We didn't roll for leader loss as the annotated rules under 6.7 Leader Casualties has a clarification note that leaders do not roll as a result of kills from AT shots or when loaded on an APC and casualties are taken.

That's news to me. I don't off-hand recall this popping up very often so I never felt the need to look for clarification. Beyond that, the rule seems to be quite clear that any loss can trigger a leader casualty DR. IIRC, this is something that came up just recently on these forums.

Also 6.71 only pertains to Direct and Bombardment Fire.

These were AT shots from outside the hex that ultimately destroyed the PzIV, not an assault.

If I may say so, I wouldn't be so sure of that interpretation. I think you're combining two different parts of the lone leader rule 6.71 into something it isn't. The first sentence describes how lone leaders take combat losses due to enemy fire. That's where Direct Fire and Bombardment come into play. The subsequent sentences in the rule describes how lone leaders take losses and displacement due to enemy movement. The two processes are quite different in application and possible outcomes.

At least that's just MHO. No offense meant or taken.

Michael