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Aircraft
08-23-2012, 07:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-23-2012, 10:51 AM by plloyd1010.)
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RE: Aircraft
So, you dismiss Guderian because he would tell Hitler what he wanted to hear. It seems there is another book you haven't read yet. Guderian was removed from command in late '42 because he often told Hitler what he thought. Also because he figured out Hitler's trivia arguments, then beat him at it. It took the treat of mutiny by the army to get him reinstated.

The report I cited, with a name, subject, and date noted, should be available to anyone here who can do 30 seconds of internet digging. The rest of what I said might take upwards of 2 minutes to track down. Check bibliographies and footnotes. Don't dismiss primary sources in favor of bias or someone's rewrites.

Guderian was there because the previous general was strafed (thanks Charlie), on quiet French country road, 80-90 hexes from the battlefield. The 12th SS and 21st Panzer were not 50 miles behind the line, the were the line.

The original issue had to do with the effectiveness of aircraft in PG, implied, vs. reality. Effective tactical air support was quite devastating to it's targets. Often incapacitating them for hours, even days. The rapid advances across France (both ways) and into Russia would not have been as dramatic, is places not even possible, without tactical air support. The biggest issues in that support have normally been effective targeting and coordination with the ground.

My take on aircraft in PG is that they are undervalued. I suspect this due game requirements. PG is a ground game, deciding the results outside that scope. Certainly for me, I don't really want to win on a die roll, I want to win because good tactics. If I lose, I want it to be because the other guy was better, not luckier, than I.
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Aircraft - by Shad - 08-21-2012, 11:12 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-21-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Aircraft - by campsawyer - 08-21-2012, 12:07 PM
RE: Aircraft - by Shad - 08-21-2012, 12:18 PM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-22-2012, 03:50 AM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-22-2012, 02:02 PM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 02:05 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Matt W - 08-21-2012, 12:53 PM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-21-2012, 01:09 PM
RE: Aircraft - by JayTownsend - 08-22-2012, 03:52 AM
RE: Aircraft - by larry marak - 08-22-2012, 01:33 PM
RE: Aircraft - by campsawyer - 08-22-2012, 11:14 PM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 01:38 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Hugmenot - 08-22-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-23-2012, 07:39 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Shad - 08-23-2012, 08:22 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 08:57 AM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-25-2012, 12:06 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-25-2012, 02:11 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 09:00 AM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-23-2012, 07:40 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 08:43 AM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-23-2012, 08:40 AM
RE: Aircraft - by JoeBuckeye - 08-23-2012, 09:31 AM
RE: Aircraft - by larry marak - 08-23-2012, 09:47 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Shad - 08-23-2012, 10:32 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Poor Yorek - 08-23-2012, 11:24 AM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-23-2012, 12:16 PM
RE: Aircraft - by plloyd1010 - 08-23-2012, 12:32 PM
RE: Aircraft - by larry marak - 08-23-2012, 01:55 PM
RE: Aircraft - by J6A - 08-24-2012, 04:39 AM
RE: Aircraft - by campsawyer - 08-24-2012, 07:43 AM
RE: Aircraft - by campsawyer - 08-25-2012, 04:37 AM
RE: Aircraft - by J6A - 08-25-2012, 04:59 AM
RE: Aircraft - by Matt W - 10-09-2012, 03:13 AM
RE: Aircraft - by campsawyer - 10-09-2012, 04:52 AM

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