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[Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
06-07-2012, 05:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-07-2012, 05:47 PM by Shad.)
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[Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
(Direct link to Rule 3.1)

Situation that has happened in my last game. The Line of Sight between the German leader and mortars and the American infantry platoon is blocked.

In the same action segment

1. the German leader selfactivates and activates the mortar platoon.

2. Then the German leader moves to the woods and spots the enemy platoon. Immediately the German mortar platoon fires.

In my opinion this action is legal per rule 3.13 ("The activated unit, leader or group performs actions in no specific order") but I have doubts, because there is a little interruption between the activation of the mortar platoon and the fire.

What do you think about?

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06-07-2012, 05:51 PM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
This case is not explicitly covered, but I believe that Rule 9.1 - Target Spotting makes it clear that active OR inactive leaders can spot for units.

In this case your leader moves, receives his MOVED counter, and then spots for the 81mm:

Spotting for bombardment does not require the leader to activate - an unactivated leader or a leader under a "MOVED/FIRED" marker may spot for bombardment.

If my opponent did that I would applaud his cleverness! Wink
...came for the cardboard, stayed for the camaraderie...
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06-07-2012, 07:22 PM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
Can't remember doing that myself, but it seems perfectly legal to me Enrique.

If I were playing you, I'd stick that nugget in my back-pocket for later use by my own troops.
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06-07-2012, 09:24 PM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
A valid move. Probably have used this before, but the resolution of the fire was not very interesting so it wasn't remembered. With your example it is only a 8 column shot on the BF table, best you can do is a morale check. It might be more interesting if this was a subordinated activation where the leader activating the mortar also actives a stack to assault after the mortar attack. This could prove very useful it the mortar disrupts or demoralizes the target and then the assault can get an advantage.
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06-07-2012, 10:07 PM,
#5
RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
I have always played it this way.
No "minor" country left behind...
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06-07-2012, 11:57 PM,
#6
RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
I see zero problem with this.
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06-08-2012, 02:41 AM,
#7
RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
I have always played this way.

This could be a risky gamble in this specific case if the picture is from an actual game in progress. I don't see any German troops which could harm the American platoon with Direct Fire and thus the American platoon could self-activate in the next American activation phase and move to 5821 to try to eliminate the German leader on a die roll of 9 or more.
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06-08-2012, 04:55 AM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
(06-08-2012, 02:41 AM)Hugmenot Wrote: I have always played this way.

This could be a risky gamble in this specific case if the picture is from an actual game in progress. I don't see any German troops which could harm the American platoon with Direct Fire and thus the American platoon could self-activate in the next American activation phase and move to 5821 to try to eliminate the German leader on a die roll of 9 or more.

yup ! Not such a novice are you D
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06-08-2012, 05:31 AM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
(06-08-2012, 04:55 AM)vince hughes Wrote: yup ! Not such a novice are you D
You may want to read my recent Fall of France thread and reconsider your opinion. Board orientation is not my forte....
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06-08-2012, 06:37 AM,
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RE: [Rule 3.1 Action Segments]
(06-08-2012, 05:31 AM)Hugmenot Wrote:
(06-08-2012, 04:55 AM)vince hughes Wrote: yup ! Not such a novice are you D
You may want to read my recent Fall of France thread and reconsider your opinion. Board orientation is not my forte....

It was me that pointed it out to you ...... Memory may be an issue too Big Grin
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