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100mm Skoda Howitzers - plloyd1010 - 08-28-2021
I'm being systemically fussy again. This time about 100mm howitzers. I already have an idea how I want to work these in the OOB extensions, but thought I would bring my internal discussion here. After all, things always sound better in your own head as opposed to dealing with outside feedback.
First for WW2 games, there are 6 weapons designated generically as 100mm artillery.
![[Image: 187-0.png?257409]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/187-0.png?257409)
![[Image: 2103-0.png?260802]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/2103-0.png?260802)
![[Image: 268-0.png?555411]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/268-0.png?555411)
![[Image: 711-0.png?351323]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/711-0.png?351323)
![[Image: 2109-0.png?1349]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/2109-0.png?1349)
![[Image: 763-0.png?637479]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/763-0.png?637479)
Then, more specifically, there are 2 designated as 100mm/14. I take those to refer to the Skoda houfnice vz 14.
![[Image: 2105-0.png?837869]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/2105-0.png?837869)
![[Image: 2106-0.png?940994]](http://www.pg-hq.com/units/2106-0.png?940994)
These strongly resemble the Austro-Hungarian 10cm/14. So I conclude that 12 factor 100mm guns should be the Skoda houfnice vz 14. Higher value ones are probably the later version Skoda houfnice vz 14/19.
Now let's complicate this. The Book of Armaments has 100mm artillery for 5 nations/forces, including the Soviet Guard and Nazi SS. All have a bombardment factor of 12, but in the book, Dr. Mike says he rethought it and says they should have a bombardment factor of 14. (Elsewhere he says that this is to prevent 100mm guns from combining to make a 30 point attack.)
What I am thinking is that the German and Romanian pieces, should have a sub-designation of 100mm/14 or 10cm/14, probably in the historical name. They should also be remade as 100mm/14 pieces the OOB extensions, with an additional note in the extension documentation. 14-point 100mm counters should be added to the Polish, Hungarian and Slovak 15-point weapon entries in the library. 14-point versions of the guns should be added as alternates to the OOB extensions, probably as defaults for the Polish and Hungarian entries. (The Slovaks had a 1930 version of the Skoda gun in the Mobile Division for 15?)
Any thoughts on any of that?
RE: 100mm Skoda Howitzers - cjsiam - 08-28-2021
The variance in AT is pretty substantial....
Is that a country period thing that just HAS to differ?
2-4 being very early war? and 4-6 being trained? (but it looks like a German Heer piece...so? )
That works out to a difference in impact from 6 to 9 hexes (with extra range...)
Is that explained in the "Book of Armaments" ?(and 5 is right out....)
RE: 100mm Skoda Howitzers - plloyd1010 - 08-29-2021
(08-28-2021, 04:48 PM)cjsiam Wrote: The variance in AT is pretty substantial....I am pretty sure the time period does not matter. First because I don't think there was ever a HEAT round for 100mm howitzers. Second because 25-pdrs 105mm howitzers, ect. never change their AT values by period. (HEAT rounds for artillery are not generally available until late 1942.) And no, nothing is explained in The Book of Armaments.
Is that a country period thing that just HAS to differ?
2-4 being very early war? and 4-6 being trained? (but it looks like a German Heer piece...so? )
That works out to a difference in impact from 6 to 9 hexes (with extra range...)
Is that explained in the "Book of Armaments" ?(and 5 is right out....)
As I said at the beginning, this is a systemic issue. Like the others that seem to crop up with PG.
