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Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - cjsiam - 06-21-2019
So that sneaky German got a BF110....(that gosh...not something better)
and he decided (being the heartless Hun that he is) that he would attack a hex which
is an Assault hex which has both Russian (3 of them) and Germans (2 of them---germans dug in)....
So---we rolled this as a Direct Fire attack on BOTH groups.....
Against russians 6DF +2 mod adjacent, +1 for 3 units russian
Against German 6DF +2 mod adjacent -1 for friendly fire; -1 for dug-in
There does not seem to be any discussion of Aircraft attacking Assault hexes---nor is there a stricture against it....
Did we do that right? Roll the two attacks (after the roll of 1-2 to miss, vs. 3-6 to hit)
thanks!
cj
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - plloyd1010 - 06-22-2019
I think that is how I would have called it. I think I would have done only one arrival roll though. I don't know if the +2 against the Germans would apply, but I'll leave any definitive decent to someone else.
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - Hugmenot - 06-22-2019
Aircraft Friendly Fire is 15.12 but it does not cover aircraft attacking an assault hex.
One thing you did not specify is whether you rolled one die once or twice per aircraft for 15.11. I would have rolled once per aircraft because 15.11 states the aircraft hits or misses the hex. If an aircraft hit the hexes, I would have played it as you did.
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - cjsiam - 06-25-2019
(06-22-2019, 01:36 AM)Hugmenot Wrote: Aircraft Friendly Fire is 15.12 but it does not cover aircraft attacking an assault hex.
One thing you did not specify is whether you rolled one die once or twice per aircraft for 15.11. I would have rolled once per aircraft because 15.11 states the aircraft hits or misses the hex. If an aircraft hit the hexes, I would have played it as you did.
rolled one time for attack on hex.....
So...we still have peter's +2 question.....my thinking is its not optional....+2 applys to all attacks in the hex
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - dxdavieau - 09-23-2019
I'd roll the 'arrival' die one time for the hex. Then roll a separate attack DR for each side, like OBA/BF against an assault hex. I think the +2 mod for adjacent would apply to both sides. IMHO
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - cjsiam - 03-24-2026
Looking back on this...
I'm troubled that Hugmenot's comment is not fully addressed...
What we are doing with Aircraft in an Assault hex is DF fire into the Assault hex---which is illegal....
I"m thinking that maybe, since it's being treated as DF fire, we can't do it....it's not Bombardment its Direct mostly...
?
At this point, according to the game rules--I think you CANNOT use Aircraft against and assault hex, any more then you can use
Machine Guns on such a hex....
NOW!.... AT Guns can be used on Vehicles in Assault hex....
I'm thinking if there is a special AT value on the aircraft they could do that....
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - plloyd1010 - 03-25-2026
(03-24-2026, 06:37 PM)cjsiam Wrote: At this point, according to the game rules--I think you CANNOT use Aircraft against and assault hex, any more then you can use
Machine Guns on such a hex....
I don't buy into that. Aircraft, while they do use the DF table for resolution, are more of an area attack, similar to bombardment. So without a "danger close" rule/concept, like with EF Arty, they would attack the hex.
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - Tambu - 03-27-2026
WOW! Do the 4th edition rules allow air attacks in assault hexes? If so, sagunto will be thrilled to be able to provide air support for his crunchies in close assaults!
I know that the rules don't allow ground-based, AT fire into an assault hex targeting enemy armor if there is friendly AFVs in the hex.
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - plloyd1010 - 03-27-2026
(03-27-2026, 05:13 AM)Tambu Wrote: WOW! Do the 4th edition rules allow air attacks in assault hexes? If so, sagunto will be thrilled to be able to provide air support for his crunchies in close assaults!
I think the 3rd and 4th Editions allow air attacks against assault hexes. Keep in mind that both sides would be attacked, probably like in rule 9.51. saqunto may not like that.
RE: Air Attack on an Assault Hex.... - treadasaurusrex - 03-27-2026
You mean that air attacks are just like artillery strikes against enemy platoons in assault hexes, including the possibility of adjacent-hex strikes on friendly units ONLY (15.11 and 15.12)?