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RE: 4th Edition rules are up - campsawyer - 06-09-2014
(06-09-2014, 06:10 AM)richvalle Wrote: Are you sure it's an increased chance to hit with FF? If I'm doing this right (adding up the %'s for getting a 2, 3, 4 and 5) there is about a 27% chance to hit on a 2-5. On a 1-2 on a single die it's a 33% chance.
G/A/B was about a 17% chance (1/6) and now it's about a 16.7% so the same.
G/A/B self spotting is about 8.3%. Non about 17%.
So... less chance to hit but hits for full value when it does?
Less is more, you are correct with the non modified FF rolls 10/36 v. 2/6
For G/B/A it is the the same, 6/36 v 1/6
Self spotting in new, so there is no comparison.
Interesting note as I was reading about the French artillery prior to it's demise. Seems that even though they had good maps of the the borderlands as well as the low countries, they failed to keep their FO training current, even stripping back FO's from units. There main focus of artillery training was the guns of the Maginot Line and the mobile units were relegated direct fire support for the infantry units. Because of this French indirect fire capabilities were poor at best. It made me wonder if the French should have a 1-3 FF chance.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - JayTownsend - 06-09-2014
Ok where are the Overrun - Optional Rules mentioned in the 4th edition PG rules?
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - vince hughes - 06-09-2014
(06-09-2014, 02:00 PM)JayTownsend Wrote: Ok where are the Overrun - Optional Rules mentioned in the 4th edition PG rules?
I think Mike said there was a seperate booklet with the optional rules.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - plloyd1010 - 06-09-2014
The overrun rules got put up today in the daily content. They are the cavalry charge rules extended to 3 hexes. Probably the best that can be done with plodding tank movement. I noticed a small grammatical error that may cause some confusion.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - vince hughes - 06-10-2014
(06-09-2014, 11:50 PM)plloyd1010 Wrote: The overrun rules got put up today in the daily content. They are the cavalry charge rules extended to 3 hexes. Probably the best that can be done with plodding tank movement. I noticed a small grammatical error that may cause some confusion.
I think (and I say think) tanks in open may be reduced to 1.5MP's per hex too.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - plloyd1010 - 06-10-2014
That would be an improvement, a little overcomplicated but better. We'll know more when the 4th Ed TEC is released.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - richvalle - 06-10-2014
And some other optional rules listed as well.
http://www.avalanchepress.com/4EOptionals1.php
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - richvalle - 06-10-2014
(06-09-2014, 11:50 PM)plloyd1010 Wrote: The overrun rules got put up today in the daily content. They are the cavalry charge rules extended to 3 hexes. Probably the best that can be done with plodding tank movement. I noticed a small grammatical error that may cause some confusion.
I don't see the overrun rules but I do see the 'extended assault' ones. I think those are different?
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - plloyd1010 - 06-10-2014
Since they are referred to collectively in assault movement, I expect the 3 hex extended assault distance is the overrun rule. Perhaps we will see the 2nd part of the optional rules tomorrow.
RE: 4th Edition rules are up - richvalle - 06-10-2014
(06-10-2014, 03:27 AM)plloyd1010 Wrote: Since they are referred to collectively in assault movement, I expect the 3 hex extended assault distance is the overrun rule. Perhaps we will see the 2nd part of the optional rules tomorrow.
I thought overrun was moving though the hex attacking as you go.
Lets see what tomorrow brings.
How is everyone liking the rules so far?