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RE: Spearhead Division - Blackcloud6 - 02-01-2015
This Spearhead module looks cool. I was in the 3rd AD 1986-89. I hope though, that it is not skewed by Belton Cooper's anecdotal, emotional and inaccurate analysis of the Sherman.
RE: Spearhead Division - zaarin7 - 02-01-2015
Thank you for your service Blackcloud6.
RE: Spearhead Division - Bluebell88A - 02-01-2015
(01-28-2015, 04:33 AM)JayTownsend Wrote: I finally beat you in posting something Larry!
I am trying to talk Mike into adding a German Jagdtiger counter as well.
Jay,
I hope it's spelt correctly!
Tim
RE: Spearhead Division - patman - 02-01-2015
(02-01-2015, 12:08 AM)Blackcloud6 Wrote: This Spearhead module looks cool. I was in the 3rd AD 1986-89. I hope though, that it is not skewed by Belton Cooper's anecdotal, emotional and inaccurate analysis of the Sherman.
I think the game took a pretty dim view of the Sherman from the get-go (which may reflect Mike B.'s co-authorial experience). That "3" armor rating makes it pretty damn useless against mid- to late-model PzIV or better.
RE: Spearhead Division - ariel_d - 02-01-2015
Okay I THINK I got how it works: you get x bonus countersheets for every x+1 games you order, assuming that's part of the promotion (so for example, you're eligible for Spearhead when buying at least two Panzer Grenadier games). However, THEY get to choose what specific bonus countersheets you get, so to ensure you get all available bonus countersheets available at the time, you'd need to order that many games plus one. (As the latest News From The Front newsletter says, they're "just cruel that way" lol.) Nothing I've read prevents them from sending you multiple copies of the same countersheet, however, but I'd like to think they're not THAT cruel
And yes, I'm a GC member also, took advantage of it to buy me some games from the Viking Funeral promo last December
(01-30-2015, 10:37 PM)graydo Wrote:(01-30-2015, 11:45 AM)Poor Yorek Wrote:(01-30-2015, 12:54 AM)ariel_d Wrote: "It's a special sales incentive for Gold Club members who order our new Panzer Grenadier games." Pardon my ignorance - assuming one is a GC member, how exactly does this work?
Generally, the GC membership provides one discounts on various games, particularly pre-orders. Additionally, they have goodies like counter-sets for multiple purchases, e.g. buy two games, get counter set X; buy three games, get counter sets X & Y. That sort of thing.
I have to say I just joined the Gold Club and it seems a bit opaque as to how you would take advantage of this.
RE: Spearhead Division - JayTownsend - 02-01-2015
(02-01-2015, 05:13 AM)Bluebell88A Wrote:(01-28-2015, 04:33 AM)JayTownsend Wrote: I finally beat you in posting something Larry!
I am trying to talk Mike into adding a German Jagdtiger counter as well.
Jay,
I hope it's spelt correctly!
Tim
Me too if it ever gets added!
RE: Spearhead Division - Blackcloud6 - 02-02-2015
(02-01-2015, 12:49 PM)patman Wrote: I think the game took a pretty dim view of the Sherman from the get-go (which may reflect Mike B.'s co-authorial experience). That "3" armor rating makes it pretty damn useless against mid- to late-model PzIV or better.
Agree and it is unfortunate. But at the time the game was designed nobody had really taken a good analytic look at the Sherman in WWII, most people just took the anecdotal history at face value; lots of Shermans were lost, therefore it was crappy. But it has been in the recent years with works like Steve Zaloga has done that took a critical look and the Sherman comes out pretty good. The Sherman should have a 4 armor rating.
RE: Spearhead Division - Blackcloud6 - 02-02-2015
(02-01-2015, 03:14 AM)zaarin7 Wrote: Thank you for your service Blackcloud6.
You are very welcome.
RE: Spearhead Division - patman - 02-02-2015
(02-02-2015, 12:27 AM)Blackcloud6 Wrote:(02-01-2015, 12:49 PM)patman Wrote: I think the game took a pretty dim view of the Sherman from the get-go (which may reflect Mike B.'s co-authorial experience). That "3" armor rating makes it pretty damn useless against mid- to late-model PzIV or better.
Agree and it is unfortunate. But at the time the game was designed nobody had really taken a good analytic look at the Sherman in WWII, most people just took the anecdotal history at face value; lots of Shermans were lost, therefore it was crappy. But it has been in the recent years with works like Steve Zaloga has done that took a critical look and the Sherman comes out pretty good. The Sherman should have a 4 armor rating.
I just might play my next U.S. scenario with 4-armor Shermans!
I've seen Cooper's book on the shelves but I'm not familiar with the work of Zaloga. Is that in the specialist literature, or available as a mass-market book like Cooper's?
RE: Spearhead Division - campsawyer - 02-02-2015
Quote:I just might play my next U.S. scenario with 4-armor Shermans!
I had toyed with this same idea, but this does not model the tactics that Shermans evenly used, numbers, speed and maneuverability. IMO, PG has an issue with this.