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How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - Shad - 08-29-2013
Series have a way of sucking people in... once you know the core rules it becomes very convenient to pull another scenario off the shelf rather than make room in one's brain for another ruleset... I'm curious how much of your overall wargaming time Panzer Grenadier gets?
Totally arbitrary guidelines:
- rough estimate over no more than the last 2 years
- thinking about hours here, not events, as games vary in length
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - Memenne - 08-29-2013
My answer is 25% but actually, it's less. Probably 10%.
I didn't play for many months, and won't be playing before many weeks...
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - JayTownsend - 08-29-2013
There are about three other systems and some individual games I play as well, so PG gets most of my time, but it's only about half or 50%. Also designing time takes away as well. PG it still my first place pick hands down but you have to mix it up sometimes.
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - enrique - 08-29-2013
95% of my playing time is for PG. Sometimes I think: what am I missing? Then I look for other games. I recently bought the game "Red Winter" (GMT). An excellent game, very well written rules, first quality material. The designer may have spent hundreds of working hours. I played once the tutorial scenario and twice the first day of the campaign. Good impression, but in my opinion the fun is not worth the effort to master the rules. PG is simpler, more fun, and has more than 1,500 scenarios (of which at least a few hundred are good).
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - Hugmenot - 08-29-2013
About 75%.
One good thing about owning so many scenarios is I can choose one that fits my mood at the moment.
The 75% may decrease once there are more Infantry Attack ganes available. I prefer PG to IA overall but IA is a better choice for me when I am in the mood to fight a battle under constraints, in the sense that the attacker's options may be restrricted (or less desirable) due to artillery pre-plotting.
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - campsawyer - 08-30-2013
(08-29-2013, 11:47 PM)enrique Wrote: 95% of my playing time is for PG. Sometimes I think: what am I missing? Then I look for other games. I recently bought the game "Red Winter" (GMT). An excellent game, very well written rules, first quality material. The designer may have spent hundreds of working hours. I played once the tutorial scenario and twice the first day of the campaign. Good impression, but in my opinion the fun is not worth the effort to master the rules. PG is simpler, more fun, and has more than 1,500 scenarios (of which at least a few hundred are good).
Enrique, I too have Red Winter and really like the core rules. The disappointment was in not enough scenarios and the ones that you play became predictable. Looking forward to Operation Dauntless for more variability.
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - vince hughes - 08-30-2013
Me too for Red Winter.
Trouble is with all these games. I either start reading the rules and decide they are too much to bother with (especially for a game that might just be a one-off battle) OR worse still, I read all the rules, then decide that by playing another game, I'll be missing out on adding another PG scenario to my 'played' collection. (as was the case with Red Winter)
One other put-off of course is reading the rules then not liking what you've read (will not name individual series here)
The last couple of days I have been looking at the World At War series by LnL online. Set at the outbreak of a 1980's NATO v PACT situation it looks interesting and because of the above explaination I haven't pulled any triggers yet.
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - tlangston28 - 08-30-2013
Almost all is PG, though I have done a Lock N Load Band of Heroes scenario here and there as well as a Skype game of GWAS with Alan. I would probably stick with these being my main choices with PG getting the most time followed by GWAS. Lock N Load for me was a lot of fun and is quick but the scenario selection isn't there and I don't get that much time anyway.
The World At War and Nations At War series from LnL seem interesting and wouldn't mind trying those as those scenarios can be completed in an evening, but do I want to buy into a whole other series?
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - McKinley - 08-30-2013
hummmm . . .
when i game solo and it is a board game PZ most of the time.
when i game with others not PZ.
but other times i game on a PC or tablet or PS3.
I have in the past been known to play S&T/SPI games (per PZ!).
and have played a lot of years with painted toy soldiers.
RE: How much of your wargame playtime does PG get? - Matt W - 08-30-2013
Believe it or not, only about 75%. I still play a lot of the Civil War Brigade series from the Gamers and recently I've been reading through the Kevin Zucker Campaigns of Napoleon series rules and scenarios again. I have a very soft spot for games that Include the battle of Leipzig and typically play one of those each year.