(11-27-2012, 11:01 AM)campsawyer Wrote: (11-27-2012, 10:36 AM)Shad Wrote: (11-27-2012, 10:21 AM)campsawyer Wrote: What don't you like about it?
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Seems to be how our games go.
Ok, its the cards. CDG's are either a love or a hate. I have had others comment that the game is to random and chaotic, but that's what war is.
Here are my thoughts on leading squad level games:
I appreciate what each system is trying to model and convey:
1. Combat Commander is almost too random for me, but damn fun with a F2F player, and I like the morale/cohesion mechanism. I think it does a great job with unleashing the fog of war, moments of boredom, tedium and confusion with flashpoints of violent action. But to me it is only enjoyable face to face. And I am not a huge CDG fan (though I loved UP FRONT)
2. ATS - I have no basis to know it. but assume it is close to ASL.
3. ASL - the gold standard; their mechanics for terrain, morale, leadership, weapons types and nationality considerations are phenomenal. IF I had ALL the TIME in the world I would love playing it over and over. It also gives you an appreciation of all the things a true company grade leader it trying to contemplate in a real time action. It is a good teaching game, boarding on simulation.
It was awesome for the 80s/90s, but I feel in this day and age, the high level of minute detail it tries to capture in rules might be better portrayed in a digital form.
4. LnL Heroes. - beautiful artwork, varied theaters and eras (WWII through 1990s). For me it is streamlined ASL, it is all I love about ASL without the tedium, and scenario playing time is very manageable. It has a very interactive mechanic or competitive dice rolling so your opponent never feels left out or helpless, and a good bit of random events in scenarios that make it highly suitable for solitaire play too. It is now my "go to" squad level quick fix game. Biggest complaint may be that it is a bit too "Hollywood Hero" it slants a bit more on the side of entertainment vs. historical accuracy.
5. Have not tried Conflict of Heroes.
