01-25-2023, 01:15 PM,
(This post was last modified: 01-25-2023, 01:15 PM by Grognard Gunny.)
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Reduced starters
Some scenarios have units (on either side) that begin "reduced" (I will assume that means 'with one step gone'.)
If those reduced units are further reduced during the game and thrown into the "dead pile" (for later accounting), are they only counted for the actual step lost in combat, or are they counted as two steps lost? If only the actual step lost in combat, how does one keep track of which is which?
Unless it is but another kink in the game to separate the two "types" of losses in units,,,,,,,
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01-25-2023, 01:36 PM,
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goosebrown
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RE: Reduced starters
Only count the step loss for the step in play. You can flip the units in the graveyard so if you lose two steps, flip it to full strength and if you lose one, then leave it as a 1 step unit
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01-25-2023, 03:27 PM,
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RE: Reduced starters
(01-25-2023, 01:44 PM)Shad Wrote: I track step losses, initiative, and such with pencil and paper.
And its certainly not as burdensome as it may sound. Before converting to primarily vassal which has its own tickers for tracking it, all I really did was set up a few tally columns on scratch paper and it was sufficient for the vast majority of scenarios.
Since OP has been playing Battle of the Bulge
T - A - G 3(5)
------------2 (3)
With T = Completed Turns tallied beneath, A(merican) step losses tallied beneath, G(erman) step losses tallied beneath, and Initiative(steps to reduce initiative) to the side.
Unless you have onerous scenario special rules, thats really all you need to track for gameplay/victory purposes within 1 square inch of paper.
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01-25-2023, 11:10 PM,
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RE: Reduced starters
Oh I'll keep a tally sheet. I was looking for an easy out, that's all. I really HATE to clutter things up. Hobbys are supposed to be fun, remember?
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01-26-2023, 12:25 AM,
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plloyd1010
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RE: Reduced starters
(01-25-2023, 01:15 PM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: Some scenarios have units (on either side) that begin "reduced" (I will assume that means 'with one step gone'.)
Yes, that's correct. Unless the SSR's say otherwise, or you don't have a major, they are eligible for consolidation with the optional rule.
(01-25-2023, 01:15 PM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: If those reduced units are further reduced during the game and thrown into the "dead pile" (for later accounting), are they only counted for the actual step lost in combat, or are they counted as two steps lost? If only the actual step lost in combat, how does one keep track of which is which?
They are only one step for loses, still normally double if is a reduced tank. In Vassal, I normally put units back to their original state when sending them to the graveyard (serves as a backup). There is a step loss counter on the turn track (my primary record). Of course Drew's tree-killer method always works.
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01-27-2023, 12:09 AM,
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RE: Reduced starters
That's not a bad idea. I generally put Pexiglas over my map area to keep the maps clean, for the most part. (...and to keep things "aligned", some scenarios are left for hours at a time....) It's just a matter of marking the area. Not bad at all.
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