08-31-2012, 10:28 AM,
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awdougherty
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Avalanche Press Games That Are Not PG
I own a number of Second World War at Sea games (Midway, Bomb Alley, Coral Sea, Arctic Convoy, and Bismarck) and because of the Labor Day sale, I just ordered Alamein. I will never have time to play the latter, and while I've had the former set up and ready to, I never managed to pull the trigger.
Both games look really solid, however. I know AP sometimes has a bad rep amongst gamers, but I was wondering if anyone here had sampled other AP wares? I'm really excited to get SWWAS to the table and even though I thought the rules could really use a rewrite, the game series as a whole looks great.
Anyone else have good luck with other AP titles?
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08-31-2012, 11:14 AM,
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beast013
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RE: Avalanche Press Games That Are Not PG
Red Steel is good. Red God of War was also good. For the SWWAS series, I have found them to be very well done. They are quick plays compared to other WWII tactical naval games (Command at Sea) but still hold good mechanics as well as accuracy. Coral Sea has a low counter density and can be played in three hours, thus a good starting point. APL site also offers lots of add-ons and file/playing aids to help play the game/series.
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08-31-2012, 11:23 AM,
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awdougherty
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RE: Avalanche Press Games That Are Not PG
I was trying to get Coral Sea to the table and some confusion on my part about something really silly made me and my gaming buddy switch to something else until I could get my question resolved. Unfortunately we never got it back to the table. I need to give it a go. Can it be solo'ed?
What's the rulebook look like for Alamein/Red Steel? A long slog or not too bad?
I personally believe that PG is one of the best balances between simplicity and complexity I've seen in my wargaming experience, SWWAS seems like it has that same potential (although it needs it's equivalent of the PG 3.0 rules rewrite that makes it all finally click).
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08-31-2012, 12:45 PM,
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rerathbun
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RE: Avalanche Press Games That Are Not PG
I, too have SWWAS and Red Steel/Alamein. Rules for Red Steel are not bad at all. Haven't read Alamein, but I do know it includes more rules for supply and air than Red Steel does.
SWWAS can be soloed (there are rules for solo play HERE). I would suggest trying one of the convoy scenarios from Bomb Alley rather than the CV vs CV battle in Coral Sea for solo play. For me, the CV battles really shine with a live opponent. Avalanche Press has a free VASSAL module for Coral Sea HERE if you want to try it but don't have anyone to play ftf.
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09-01-2012, 10:30 AM,
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zovs
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RE: Avalanche Press Games That Are Not PG
The only other AP games I have are Defiant Russia and Red Vengeance. Both are pretty good strategic games IIRC (Have not played them in years).
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