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RE: OBA - campsawyer - 08-27-2012

(08-27-2012, 08:05 AM)JayTownsend Wrote: Groups of three (MAX) each activation but all OBA gets to fire once per turn if the player desires. Same target if you want to!

That is how most play, but there is nothing in the rules limiting to just 3 per turn, just 3 per combined fire. I also point out, how could the activation be different than doing the same with on board artillery.


RE: OBA - Poor Yorek - 08-27-2012

Jay,

I understand the interpretation you are giving the wording and hence my earlier statement that the rule as written is ambiguous. I simply think that the use of ANY in 9.2 was intended only to convey that OBA has unlimited range over the board space subject only to spotting limitations. I still believe that the intention was that only a single hex may be targeted by OBA on a given activation, albeit up to three factors can be combined to do so, rather than asserting that one can activate, say, six OBA factors all at the same time, hitting up to a maximum of six separate hexes (or the same hex six times in succession or some combination thereof). I think the latter is simply too potent and hence not likely intended. I concede, however, that might be what was intended.

It would be nice if someone like Mike P or Doug M could provide a "what the intention of the lawgiver" was. It really seems poor policy on the part of APL not to have made at least some attempt at an official rules clarification and errata. Wizards of the Coast seemed pretty active in terms of producing pdf errata and clarifications in D&D.


RE: OBA - campsawyer - 08-27-2012

Quote:It would be nice if someone like Mike P or Doug M

I had already sent it to the "powers to be". Might take a bit of time, all are busy.


RE: OBA - campsawyer - 08-27-2012

Ok, Doug was kind enough to email from phone, that only three modules per segment. So there we have it. Will add as a clarification to the annotated rules.


RE: OBA - Poor Yorek - 08-27-2012

(08-27-2012, 09:46 AM)campsawyer Wrote: Ok, Doug was kind enough to email from phone, that only three modules per segment. So there we have it. Will add as a clarification to the annotated rules.

What does "three modules" per segment mean? That language is not clear (at least to me). Do you mean that up to three factors can be activated in a single impulse or segment, but that those three factors can be combined and/or targeted at will?

Edit/Clarification: what I mean is, the bombardment fire rules use the term "factors" not "modules". It seems confusing to introduce a term that is not defined/use anywhere else in the rules. Might I suggest that you edit the annotated rule to use "factor" and not "module" simply to be consistent with the rest of Section 9?


RE: OBA - Shad - 08-27-2012

It means that if you have 20 x 2000 OBA, you can only ever fire 3 x 2000 in one activation segment. The other 17 can be fired over the course of a turn, but at most 3 at a time.

Those 3 can be on individual hexes, 2 hexes, or all three on 1 hex as is your pleasure.


RE: OBA - Poor Yorek - 08-27-2012

(08-27-2012, 10:29 AM)Shad Wrote: It means that if you have 20 x 2000 OBA, you can only ever fire 3 x 2000 in one activation segment. The other 17 can be fired over the course of a turn, but at most 3 at a time.

Those 3 can be on individual hexes, 2 hexes, or all three on 1 hex as is your pleasure.

So, "yes." Angel

As I wrote subsequently, I believe or suggest that it would be better to use the term "factor" not "module" in the annotation as the former is used in the Rules, but the latter is not.


RE: OBA - campsawyer - 08-27-2012

(08-27-2012, 10:41 AM)Poor Yorek Wrote:
(08-27-2012, 10:29 AM)Shad Wrote: It means that if you have 20 x 2000 OBA, you can only ever fire 3 x 2000 in one activation segment. The other 17 can be fired over the course of a turn, but at most 3 at a time.

Those 3 can be on individual hexes, 2 hexes, or all three on 1 hex as is your pleasure.

So, "yes." Angel

As I wrote subsequently, I believe or suggest that it would be better to use the term "factor" not "module" in the annotation as the former is used in the Rules, but the latter is not.

Apologies as I was using a real life term rather than what was in the rules already.

I agree that there needs to be consistency, but even the rules don't 9.2 and 9.3 call then different names. Updated for both references.


RE: OBA - JayTownsend - 08-27-2012

How come, no one ever believes me? Smile


RE: OBA - Shad - 08-27-2012

(08-27-2012, 11:39 AM)JayTownsend Wrote: How come, no one ever believes me? Smile

Because you played PG for half a decade with your tanks running through clear terrain at 1 MP Tongue